TODO list for distcc See also TODO comments in source files and doc/todo/ convert web site from latte to say php Latte is nice, but seems to be gradually becoming unmaintained; not in Ubuntu or Gentoo. failing to resolve a host should be a soft failure State files depend on host byte order and break when DISTCC_DIR is shared between heterogenous machines. Of course sharing this directory is probably a bad idea anyhow. error messages get badly interleaved Large writes are not always atomic. When running parallel compiles that produce many warnings/errors, the errors can get mixed up, both between lines and within lines. Someone suggested writing out through stdio, but I don't see why that would particularly help. This needs to be done even when writing to a file. It might be more useful to voluntarily write output one line at a time so as to increase the chance that each line is written atomically. hardcode "gcc" not "cc"? I don't think distcc works with anything else. So why take the risk of calling anything else? monitor/state/lock files be on NFS What happens if the processes are missing? Should we perhaps specially handle files created by a remote machine, e.g. but the hostname in? Handle ESTALE or short EOF. http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=netappCJyvKo.MrI%40netcom.com if connection fails, reschedule remotely? See messages from Heiko Perhaps if compilation on one remote machine fails, try another, rather than falling back to localhost? However, we do need to make sure that if all remote possibilities are eliminated, then we still run locally. Perhaps we should more carefully distinguish e.g. "failed to connect", "server dropped connection", etc etc. Backing off from downed machines makes this a little less unnecessary. auto-check socklen_t mess Dmitri says: > By the way, about the accept() argument type (int, size_t, or socklen_t) > issue I had already reported in a previous post, an autoconf macro is > available after all. See: > http://www.gnu.org/software/ac-archive/htmldoc/ac_prototype_accept.html > http://www.gnu.org/software/ac-archive/htmldoc/ac_func_accept_argtypes.html > It would be better to fix this specific issue, as I think it could break > 64-bit builds where the type of the argument is actually important. Perhaps it should be int if not defined. See accept(2). some kind of memory leak in gnome monitor? "compiler not found" Perhaps distinguish this as a separate error case. We need to trap the error from exec on the server, pass that back across the network, and then handle it specially on the client. Back off from the machine where it failed and retry locally? This would be more useful when we explicitly set compiler versions. scheduler should allow for clock/bus speed (Perhaps front-side bus speed is dominant, since compiling won't fit in cache?) Suppose we have one 2GHz and one 1GHz machine. Jobs will take roughly twice as long to run on the second one; conversely we can run two jobs on the first one in the time it takes to run one on the second machine. gkrellm monitor for distcc Ought to work with client-server mode Possibly easier than writing everything ourselves Show number of running jobs? don't change the path Rather than getting into this mess of changing the $PATH, perhaps we should just check more carefully at the moment that we execute things? One problem with this might be interaction with ccache. If we have doubly masqueraded distcc:ccache:gcc, then ccache probably needs to see itself as the first item on the path to be able to find the right gcc. Perhaps we should remove items from the path, rather than trimming the path? It would be good to unify the code in dcc_support_masquerade() with dcc_trim_path(). Perhaps distccd should do path munging when it gets a request rather than at startup. It's ugly that the daemon's idea of the correct path may be wrong if files are changed after the daemon is started. DEPENDENCIES_OUTPUT The problem is when the preprocessor and compiler are both run with this variable set. The compiler appends directions for compiling from the temporary .i to the temporary .o, which is unwanted. This is a problem for ccache (now fixed), but not a problem for distcc because we always run the preprocessor and always locally. The remote compiler doesn't see the variable. multiple cleanup calls at end why is this happening? monitor There's two things that could be monitored. First is the daemon running on `this' computer and the client that is sending processes across the network. lisa writes: Some things I'd like to see for the daemon: 1) Uptime 2) Configuration (port, lzo compression? ssh enabled? etc) 3) Number of jobs done (and a spread of the types of errors reported) 4) Average throughput 5) Current compiling tasks (pid, Src, filesize, filename, time recv'd) For the client (ie, distccmon-gnome replacement): On a per job basis For SEND and RECEIVE state: 1) Current throughput 2) Type of connection (ssh? port? lzo?) 3) pid 4) filename For (remote) COMPILE state: 1) The actual pre-processed filename 2) Type of connection (ssh? port? lzo?) 3) pid For (local) LINKING state: 1) The actual pre-processed filename 2) pid 3) Where the object code was compiled 4) The post-linked filenamed (gcc ... -o [display this]) For (local) PREPROCESS state: 1) filename 2) pid A tall order to be sure, and it'd suck to do the GUI... but you asked. :) unlink .i file as soon as it has been opened for sending Might help with vm performance by hinting to the kernel that it will be discarded. Possibly reduces the chances of temporary files being left behind. However, will not work on Windows. variable to add extra remote cflags, to handle icpc handle -xc++, etc Can be either one or two arguments. handle -Wp,-MF Some makefiles seem to generate this. Aarg! Installation as an SSH subsystem Might make use easier on Windows. I don't see any real advantage on Unix. I think the daemon should already be OK for this. It just requires a slight change in the way we call ssh from the client. In fact, if you just wrote a small script that rearranged the arguments and put that in DISTCC_SSH then everything would probably be fine already. control through command line Handle options like --distcc-verbose --distcc-hosts= to allow options to be set on the command line. I'm not sure this is a good idea or useful. If we have produced a .i file and need to fall back to running locally then use that rather than the original source. On the other hand, falling back to running the original command is possibly more robust. * @todo Make absolutely sure that if we fail, the .o file is removed. * Perhaps it would be better to receive to a temporary file and then * rename into place? On the other hand, gcc seems to just write * directly, and if we fail or crash then Make ought to know not to * use it. * * @todo Count the preprocessor, and any compilations run locally, against the * load of localhost. In doing this, make sure that we cannot deadlock * against a load limit, by having a case where we need to hold one lock and * take another to make progress. I don't think there should be any such case * -- we can release the cpp lock before starting the main compiler. * allow more control over verbosity For example, for the client, it would be nice to get just 'info' level messages about things that can or can't be distributed. split gcc-specific argument parsing into a separate module boredom When there are too many jobs submitted by make, then we have to wait until any slot is available. Unfortunately there is no OS-level locking system I can think of that allows us to block waiting for any one of a number of resources. If there are no slots to run, then at the moment we just sleep for 2s. This is OK, but can leave the processor idle. It would be better to be woken up by other processes as they exit. One way to do this would be to listen on a named pipe for notifications. This must be backed up by a sleep timer because we may not get the notification if e.g. the other process is killed. Also it won't work on Cygwin, which doesn't have named pipes. Simply doing a select() on a pipe allows us to block for a while or until signalled. Simply doing a nonblocking write of one byte to the pipe ought to allow waking up exactly one of the sleepers. Using an OS level semaphore to guard access to slots might work with some fudging, but there is no good portable implementation of them so it is moot. When woken, the clients can do one full round of trying to get a slot and then go back to sleep. This "guides" the OS scheduler towards keeping (almost) the exact number of clients activated, without too many of them spinning. We can't make the timeout too high, or the client will idle for a long time waiting for it. But if we make it too low then we have the thundering herd problem that currently exists... Perhaps this is overengineering: people shouldn't make the -j number so high that this is hit very often, and we need to have the timeout anyhow, so why not just rely on it. Just listening on a pipe is cheaper than checking all the locks. intel CC Does not understand the .ii extension. We need to specify -xc++ to make it properly compile C++ from preprocessed source. Is it OK to just get the user to add this? Perhaps we could add it always? Do we need a DISTCC_ADD_OPTIONS variable? clean up temp files when a client is signalled Interrupting a compilation is pretty common. It might be good to handle this more cleanly. We can also remove status files. This would reduce the need for monitor clients to handle dead state files, which might reduce problems to do with viewing compilations by another user. globally visible status files Perhaps store in a world-writable /var/lib/distcc, so that they're visible even when TMPDIR or HOME has been reset, as when building with emerge. Another good case to support is compilation from inside a chroot jail. It might also be nice to be able to see other people using your machine either as a client or as a server. This requires passing a trust boundary when publishing information across accounts. The directory needs to be writable and the programs need to be robust against other users trying to cause mischief. It's perhaps not great to allow that kind of security issue in a default installation. Should we really create a mode 777 directory by default? umask will put some restrictions on what can be seen. Alternatively, have an environment variable that sets the state location. If people want it globally visible they can set it to a global location. dnotify in monitor This has been implemented, but I pulled it out because I'm not convinced it is a good idea. Signals into GTK seem to cause some trouble when running from valgrind etc. Polling is not too expensive, and is nice and simple. It also allows easier ways to handle corner cases like cleaning up state files left over after a compiler is terminated. Could set up dnotify on the state directory so that we don't have to keep polling it. This would slightly reduce our CPU usage when idle, and might allow for faster updates when busy. We still have to scan the whole directory though, so we don't want to do it too often. I'm not sure how to nicely integrate this into GNOME though. dnotify sends us a signal, which doesn't seem to fit in well with the GNOME system. Perhaps the dummy pipe trick? Or perhaps we can jump out of the signal? We can't call GTK code from inside. state changes are "committed" by renaming the file, so we'd want to listen for DN_RENAME I think. We need to make sure not to get into a loop by reacting to our own delete events. SSH connection hoarding It might be nice to hold open SSH connections to avoid the network and CPU overhead of opening new ones. However, fsh is far too slow, probably because of being written in Python. It's only going to work on systems which can pass file descriptors and therefore needs to be optional. Probably this only works on Unix. Building the kernel between the three x2000s seems to make localhost thrash. A few jobs (but not many) get passed out to the other machines. Perhaps for C++ or something with really large files fsh would be better because the cost of starting Python would be amortized across more work. I don't think this needs to be done in distcc. It can be a completely separate project to just rewrite fsh into C. Indeed you could even be compatible with the Python implementation and just write the short-lived client bit in C. Masquerade It might be nice to automatically create the directory and symlinks. However we don't know what compiler names they'll want to hook... Probably the best that we can do is provide clear instructions for users or package distributors to set this up. Packaging Perhaps build RPMS and .debs? Is it easy to build a static (or LSB-compliant?) .rpm on Debian? What about an apt repository? Statistics Accumulate statistics on how many jobs are built on various machines. Want to be able to do something like "watch ccache -s". Perhaps just dump files into a status directory where they can be examined? Ignore (or delete) files over ~60s old. This avoids problems with files hanging around from interrupted compilations. refactor name handling Common function that looks at file extensions and returns information about them - what is the preprocessed form of this extension? - does this need preprocessing? - is this a source file? check that EINTR is handled in all cases check that all lengths are unsigned 32-bit I think this is done, but it's worth checking a bit more. abort when cpp fails The same SIGCHLD handling approach used to feed the compiler from a fifo might be used to abort early if the preprocessor fails. This will happen reasonably often, whenever there is a problem with an include, ifdef, comment, etc. It might save waiting for a long connection to complete. One complication is that we know the compiler ought to consume all its input but we don't know when cpp ought to finish. So the sigchld handler will have to check if it failed or not. If it failed, then abort compilation. If it did not fail, then keep going with the connection or whatever. This is probably not worthwhile at the moment because connections generally seem faster than waiting for cpp. feed compiler from fifo Probably quite desirable, because it allows the compiler to start work sooner. This was originally removed because of some hitches to do with process termination. I think it can be put back in reliably, but only if this is fixed. Perhaps we need to write to the compiler in nonblocking mode? Perhaps it would be better to talk to both the compiler and network in nonblocking mode? It is pretty desirable to pull information from the network as soon as possible, so that the TCP windows and buffers can open right up. Check CVS to remember what originally went wrong here. Events that we need to consider: Client forks Compiler opens pipe Client exits Server opens pipe There are a few possibilities here: Client opens fifo, reads all input, and exits. The normal success case. Client never reads from fifo and just exits. Would happen if the compiler command line was wrong. Client reads from fifo but not the whole thing, and then exits. Opening the fifo is a synchronization point: in blocking mode neither the compiler or server can proceed past here until the other one opens it. If the compiler exits, then the server ought to be broken out of it by a SIGCHLD. But there is a race condition here: the SIGCHLD might happen just before the open() call. We need to either jump out of the signal handler and abort the compilation, or use a non-blocking open and a dummy pipe to break the select(). If we jump out with longjmp then this makes the code a bit convoluted. Alternatively the signal handler could just do a nonblocking open on the pipe, which would allow the open to complete, if it had not already. This was last supported in 0.12. That version doesn't handle the compiler exiting without opening the pipe though. streaming input output We could start sending the preprocessed source out before it is complete. This would require a protocol that allows us to send little chunks from various streams, followed by an EOF. This can certainly be done -- fsh and ssh do it. However, particularly if we want to allow for streaming more than one thing at a time, then getting all the timing conditions right to avoid deadlock caused by bubbles of data in TCP pipes. rsync has had trouble with this. It's even more hairy when running over ssh. So on the whole I am very skeptical about doing this. Even when refactored into a general 'distexec', this is more about batch than interactive processing. assemble on client May be useful if there is a cross compiler but no cross assembler, as is supposed to be the case for PPC AIX. See thread by Stuart D Gathman. Would also allow piping output back to client, if the protocol was changed to support that. web site http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/thanks.html sendfile perhaps try sendfile to receive as well, if this works on any platforms. static linking cachegrind shows that a large fraction of client runtime is spent in the dynamic linker, which is kind of a waste. In principle using dietlibc might reduce the fixed overhead of the client. However, the nsswitch functions are always dynamically linked: even if we try to produce a static client it will include dlopen and eventually indirectly get libc, so it's probably not practical. testing How to use Debian's make-kpkg with distcc? Does it work with the masquerade feature? http://moin.conectiva.com.br/files/AptRpm/attachments/apt-0.5.5cnc4.1.tar.bz2 coverage Try running with gcov. May require all tests to be run from the same directory (no chdir) so that the .da files can accumulate properly. slow networks Use Linux Traffic Control to simulate compilation across a slow network. scheduling onto localhost Where does local execution fit into the picture? Perhaps we could talk to a daemon on localhost to coordinate with other processes, though that's a bit yucky. However the client should use the same information and shared state as the daemon when deciding whether it can take on another job. At the moment we just use a fixed number of slots, by default 4, and this seems to work adequately. make "localhost" less magic Recognizing this magic string and treating it differently from 127.0.0.1 or the canonical name of the host is perhaps a bit strange. People do seem to get it wrong. I can't think of a better simple solution though. blacklist/lock by IP, not by name Means we need reliable addr-to-string for IPv4 and IPv6. Any downside to this? Would fix Zygo's open Debian bug. DNS multi-A-records build.foo.com expands to a list of all IP addresses for building. Need to choose an appropriate target that has the right compilers. Probably not a good idea. If we go to using DNS roundrobin records, or if people have the same HOSTS set on different machines, then we can't rely on the ordering of hosts. Perhaps we should always shuffle them? ssh is an interesting case because we probably want to open the connection using the hostname, so that the ssh config's "Host" sections can have the proper effect. Sometimes people use multi A records for machines with several routeable interfaces. In that case it would be bad to assume the machine can run multiple jobs, and it is better to let the resolver work out which address to use. DNS SRV records Can only be updated by zone administrator -- unless you have dynamic DNS, which is quite possible. better scheduler What's the best way to schedule jobs? Multiprocessor machines present a considerable complication, because we ought to schedule to them even if they're already busy. We don't know how many more jobs will arrive in the future. This might be the first of many, or it might be the last, or all jobs might be sequenced in this stage of compilation. Generic OS scheduling theory suggests (??) that we should schedule a job in the place where it is likely to complete fastest. In other words, we should put it on the fastest CPU that's not currently busy. We can't control the overall amount of concurrency -- that's down to Make. I think all we really want is to keep roughly the same number of jobs running on each machine. I would rather not require all clients to know the capabilities of the machines they might like to use, but it's probably acceptable. We could also take the current load of the CPUs into account, but I'm not sure if we could get the information back fast enough for it to make a difference. Note that loadavg on Linux includes processes stuck in D state, which are not necessarily using any CPU. We want to approximate all tasks on the network being in a single queue, from which the servers invite tasks as cycles become available. However, we also want to preserve the classic-TCP model of clients opening connections to servers, because this makes the security model straightforward, works over plain TCP, and also can work over SSH. http://www.cs.panam.edu/~meng/Course/CS6354/Notes/meng/master/node4.html Research this more. We "commit" to using a particular server at the last possible moment: when we start sending a job to it. This is almost certainly preferable to queueing up on a particular server when we don't know that it will be the next one free. One analogy for this is patients waiting in a medical center to see one of several doctors. They all wait in a common waiting room (the queue) until a doctor (server) is free. Normally the doctors would come into the waiting room to say "who's next?", but the constraint of running over TCP means that in our case the doctors cannot initiate the transaction. One approach would be to have a central controller (ie receptionist), who knows which clients are waiting and which servers are free, but I don't really think the complexity is justified at this stage. Imagine if the clients sat so that they could see which doctor had their door open and was ready to accept a new patient. The first client who sees that then gets up to go through that door. There is a possibility of a race when two patients head for the door at the same time, but we just need to make sure that only one of them wins, and that the other returns to her seat and keeps looking rather than getting stuck. Ideally this will be built on top of some mechanism that does not rely on polling. I had wondered whether it would work to use refused TCP connections to indicate that a server's door is closed, but I think that is no good. It seems that at least on Linux, and probably on other platforms, you cannot set the TCP SYN backlog down to zero for a socket. The kernel will still accept new connections on behalf of the process if it is listening, even if it's asked for no backlog and if it's not accepting them yet. netstat shows these processes just in It looks like the only way to reliably have the server turn away connections is to either close its listening socket when it's too busy, or drop connections. This would work OK, but it forces the client into retrying, which is inefficient and ugly. Suppose clients connect and then wait for a prompt from the server before they begin to send. For multiple servers the client would keep opening connections to new machines until it got an invitation to send a job. This requires a change to the protocol but it can be made backward compatible if necessary, though perhaps that's not necessary. This would have the advantage of working over either TCP or SSH. The main problem is that the client will potentially need to open connections to many machines before it can proceed. We almost certainly need to do this with nonblocking IO, but that should be reasonably portable. Local compilation needs to be handled by lockfiles or some similar mechanism. So in pseudocode this will be something like looking_fds = [] while not accepted: select() on looking_fds: if any have failed, remove them if any have sent an invitation: close all others use the accepted connection open a new connection I'm not sure if connections should be opened in random order or the order they're listed. Clients are almost certainly not going to be accepted in the order in which they arrive. If the client sends its job early then it doesn't hurt anybody else. I suppose it could open a lot of connections but that sort of fairness issue is not really something that distcc needs to handle. (Just block the user if they misbehave.) We can't use select() to check for the ability to run a process locally. Perhaps the select() needs to timeout and we can then, say, check the load average. problems with new protocol Does anyone actually want this? I really need an example of somewhere where it would be useful. The server may need to know the right extension for the temporary file to make the compiler behave in the right way. In fact, knowing the acceptable temporary filenames is part of the application definition. Compression Can compression automatically be turned on, rather than requiring user configuration? I can't tell at the moment when would be the right time to do that. Is it cheap enough to always have it on? We not only pay the cost of compression, but we also need to give up on using sendfile() and therefore pay for more kernel-userspace transitions and some data copying. Therefore probably not, at least for GigE. User Manual The UML manual is very good - Add some documentation of the benchmark system. Does this belong in the manual, or in a separate manual? - FAQ: Can't you check the gcc version? No, because gcc programs which report the same versions number can have different behaviours, perhaps due to vendor/distributor patches. Just cpp and linker? Is it easy to describe how to install only the bits of gcc needed for distcc clients? Basically the driver, header, linker, and specs. Would this save much space? Certainly installing gcc is much easier than installing a full cross development environment, because you don't need headers or libraries. So if you have a target machine that is a bit slower but not terrible (or you don't have many of them) it might be convenient to do most of your builds on the target, but rely on helpers with cross-compilers to help out. -g support I'm told that gcc may fix this properly in a future release. There would then be no need to kludge around it in distcc. Perhaps detect the -g option, and then absolutify filenames passed to the compiler. This will cause absolute filenames to appear in error messages, but I don't see any easy way to have both correct stabs info and also correct error messages. Is anything else wrong with this approach? kill compiler If the client is killed, it will close the connection. The server ought to kill the compiler so as to prevent runaway processes on the server. This probably involves selecting() for read on the connection. The compilation will complete relatively soon anyhow, so it's not worth doing this unless there is a simple implementation. tcp fiddling I wonder if increasing the maximum window size (sys.net.core.wmem_default, etc) will help anything? It's probably dominated by scheduling inefficiency at the moment. The client does seem to spend time in wait_for_tcp_memory, which might be benefitted by increasing the available memory. benchmark Try aspell and xmms, which may have strange Makefiles. glibc gtk/glib glibc++ qt gcc gdb linux openoffice mozilla rsync-like distributed caching Look in the remote machine's cache as well. Perhaps use a SQUID-like broadcast of the file digest and other critical details to find out if any machine in the workgroup has the file cached. Perhaps this could be built on top of a more general file-caching mechanism that maps from hash to body. At the moment this sounds like premature optimization. Send source as an rdiff against the previous version. Needs to be able to fall back to just sending plain text of course. Perhaps use different compression for source and binary. librsync is probably not stable enough to do this very well. --ping option It would be nice to have a --ping client option to contact all the remote servers, and perhaps return some kind of interesting information. Output should be machine-parseable e.g. to use in removing unreachable machines from the host list. Perhaps send little fixed signatures, based on --version. Would this ever be useful? non-CC-specific Protocol Perhaps rather than getting the server to reinterpret the command line, we should mark the input and output parameters on the client. So what's sent across the network might be distcc -c @@INPUT@@ -o @@OUTPUT@@ It's probably better to add additional protocol sections to say which words should be the input and output files than to use magic values. The attraction is that this would allow a particularly knotty part of code to be included only in the client and run only once. If any bugs are fixed in this, then only the client will need to be upgraded. This might remove most of the gcc-specific knowledge from the server. Different clients might be used to support various very different distributable jobs. We ought to allow for running commands that don't take an input or output file, in case we want to run "gcc --version". The drawback is that probably new servers need to be installed to handle the new protocol version. I don't know if there's really a compelling reason to do this. If the argument parser depends on things that can only be seen on the client, such as checking whether files exist, then this may be needed. The server needs to use an appropriately-named temporary file. gcc wierdnesses: distcc needs to handle $COMPILER_PATH and $GCC_EXEC_PREFIX in some sensible way, if there is one. Not urgent because I have never heard of them being used. networking timeouts: Also we want a timeout for name resolution. The GNU resolver has a specific feature to do this. On other systems we probably need to use alarm(), but that might be more trouble than it is worth. Jonas Jensen says: Timing out the connect call could be done easier than this, just by interrupting it with a SIGALRM, but that's not enough to abort gethostbyname. This method of longjmp'ing from a signal handler is what they use in curl, so it should be ok. configurable timeout? Maybe make the various timeouts configurable? Isn't it possible to choose values that suit everyone? Maybe the initial connection timeout should be shorter? waitstatus Make sure that native waitstatus formats are the same as the Unix/Linux/BSD formats used on the wire. (See , which says they may only be interpreted by macros.) I don't know of any system where they're different. override compiler name distcc could support cross-compilation by a per-volunteer option to override the compiler name. On the local host, it might invoke gcc directly, but on some volunteers it might be necessary to specify a more detailed description of the compiler to get the appropriate cross tool. This might be insufficient for Makefiles that need to call several different compilers, perhaps gcc and g++ or different versions of gcc. Perhaps they can make do with changing the DISTCC host settings at appropriate times. I'm not convinced this complexity is justified. Rusty is doing this in ccontrol, which is possibly a better place for it. use spawn() on Windows fork() is very slow. Can we get away with only using spawn()? Installable package for Windows Also, it would be nice to have an easily installable package for Windows that makes the machine be a Cygwin-based compile volunteer. It probably needs to include cross-compilers for Linux (or whatever), or at least simple instructions for building them. autodetection (Rendezvous, etc) http://dotlocal.org/mdnsd/ The Apple licence is apparently not GPL compatible. Brad reckons SLP is a better fit. Automatic detection ("zero configuration") of compile volunteers is probably not a good idea, because it might be complicated to implement, and would possibly cause breakage by distributing to machines which are not properly configured. OpenMOSIX autodiscovery what is this? central configuration Notwithstanding the previous point, centralized configuration for a site would be good, and probably quite practical. Setting up a list of machines centrally rather than configuring each one sounds more friendly. The most likely design is to use DNS SRV records (RFC2052), or perhaps multi-RR A records. For exmaple, compile.ozlabs.foo.com would resolve to all relevant machines. Another possibility would be to use SLP, the Service Location Protocol, but that adds a larger dependency and it seems not to be widely deployed. Large-scale Distribution distcc in it's present form works well on small numbers of close machines owned by the same people. It might be an interesting project to investigate scaling up to large numbers of machines, which potentially do not trust each other. This would make distcc somewhat more like other "peer-to-peer" systems like Freenet and Napster. preprocess remotely Some people might like to assume that all the machines have the same headers installed, in which case we really can preprocess remotely and only ship the source. Imagine e.g. a Clearcase environment where the same filesystem view is mounted on all machines, and they're all running the exact same system release. It's probably not really a good idea, because it will be marginally faster but much more risky. It is possible, though, and perhaps people building files with enormous headers would like it. Perhaps those people should just use a different tool like dmake, etc. Local variables: mode: indented-text indent-tabs-mode: nil End: